Permission to Heal

Permission to Heal Episode #68 - A Conversation with Kimberly Friedmutter, Celebrity Hypnotherapist

April 27, 2022 Marci Brockmann
Permission to Heal
Permission to Heal Episode #68 - A Conversation with Kimberly Friedmutter, Celebrity Hypnotherapist
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Kimberly Friedmutter - Celebrity Hypnotherapist

Author of the book Subconscious Power, Kimberly Friedmutter CHT is a certified hypnotherapist, a member at large of the prestigious UCLA Health System Board, the American Board of Hypnotherapy, the Association for Integrative Psychology, the American Board of Neurolinguistics Programming, and the International Hypnosis Federation. She is also a certified Master Hypnotist and a certified Neuro-Linguistic Programming trainer, as well as a ‘Dame de la Chaîne’ of Chaîne des Rôtisseurs.

Kimberly is currently in private practice, dividing her time between Nevada and California, serving high-performing clientele who share her philosophy: “Expect the exceptional.”

Kimberly is a former model and actress, appearing with Bryan Cranston, John Stamos, and Olympia Dukakis in such films as Evil Obsession, Time Under Fire, A Match Made in Heaven, The Russian Godfather, and Elvis Is Alive! She has also appeared in television programs, including Entertainment Tonight, CNN, FOX, TLC, BBC, The Doctors, Bethenny, Private Chefs of Beverly Hills, Art Breakers, Silk Stalkings, L.A. Heat, LateLine, and hosted a hit talk show on the Howard Stern station, KLSX 97.1 radio in Los Angeles.

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 Hello, and welcome to permission to heal. I am Marci Brockman, and I am thrilled that you are here today. I had the privilege, the honor, the delight in speaking with Kimberly Friedmutter. She is a celebrity hypnotherapist from Las Vegas. She is the author of a wonderful book that I am loving called Subconscious Power: Use Your Inner Mind to Create the Life You've Always Wanted. She is, as I said, a certified hypnotherapist, a member at large of the prestigious use UCLA. Health system board, an American board of hypnotherapy association for integrative psychology, American board of neuro-linguistic programming, international hypnosis Federation. 

[00:00:51] She's a master hypnotist with, over 20, 30 years in the business, has worked with very famous, internationally famous politicians and Hollywood types and actors and actresses and high powered corporate folks, and really helping people figure out what their subconscious. Wants them to do, how to overcome self-limiting habits and self-limiting beliefs and become the person. The universe has always meant them to be, it's amazing. She is currently in private practice in Las Vegas, but does most of her clients online, via video chat, and so on. She divides her time between Nevada and California and her philosophy is to expect the exceptional. 

[00:01:41] She is a former model and actress appearing with a whole bunch of people who you've all heard of, including John Stamos and Olympia Dukakis. She's been in films. She's been in TV. She's been on radio. She's been interviewed by everybody. She's just so knowledgeable. And I had such curiosity around hypnotherapy. 

[00:02:06] My mom had gone like 20 years ago to. A hypnotherapist who helped her quit smoking. And it worked, she had a couple of sessions and never picked a cigarette up again. And I have been thinking about this as a modality to help myself get further in my own mental health growth process and I had been thinking that I needed to find a hypnotherapist to talk to about all of this. 

[00:02:36] And then within a matter of days, her publicist sent. A pitch to have her on permission to heal. So, I'm a firm believer in manifestation and I asked the universe for a hypnotherapist and they sent me the best Kimberly Friedmutter. You're going to love this conversation. Thank you so much for being here. 

[00:02:55] And if you like the episode, as much as I know you will please like, please subscribe. Please share with your friends and leave us a great review. Thank you so much for being here.

Marci Brockmann: So welcome, Kimberly. I'm so excited that you're here. The universe brought me, I hypnotherapist probably the best or most famous one, I should say. 

[00:00:10] Kimberly Friedmutter: Probably both.  
 

[00:00:12] Marci Brockmann: Yeah, there you go.  

[00:00:14] Kimberly Friedmutter: You know, I have a quick little funny story about that. My husband was having hip replacement surgery and I said to the surgeon, what makes you feel as we were in our interview process? And I said, what makes you feel like you're the best surgeon for my husband? And he said, I'm the best surgeon for anyone? 

[00:00:29] Kimberly Friedmutter: And I said, and my husband said you're hired because we loved that kind of self full-ness. Right. Not, not ego, not any of that, but just where you really know your lane and you really know where you're placed. And so yes, to both of those. And you're welcome.  

[00:00:47] Marci Brockmann: Excellent. Excellent. So I know very blessed and little about hypnotherapy about hypnosis in general. All I know is what I've gotten from reading your book so far and from watching your YouTube videos and perusing your website for an hour or so. Where do we start with this? Like as newbies I'm sure. Most of my listeners haven't had much experience with hypnotherapy either. And since we're all here, because we're giving ourselves permission to heal, this is a modality we can't do without. 

[00:01:20] Marci Brockmann: So, so can you introduce us to this new thing for us?  

[00:01:23] Kimberly Friedmutter: Sure. And you're absolutely right. Not only can you not do without it, but you've actually been doing with it since you came into this planetary experience, hypnosis is nothing more than deep sleep. Trans is nothing more than deep sleep Hypnos. And so what it is is really going back to we're double-minded I guess I should start there. 

[00:01:44] Kimberly Friedmutter: We're double-minded we have conscious mind. And, subconscious mind, the subconscious mind and unconscious are the same thing. It's just terminology. So I choose to use subconscious because if you watch any television these days, anybody drinking on all these crazy shows, they're always unconscious. I don't like to use the term unconscious, but anyways, so understanding that conscious and subconscious. 

[00:02:10] Kimberly Friedmutter: So those are the two parts of this conscious mind runs your day, you know, go pick up the kids at three executes, all of the things that you need to do. And so, so important to do. And then the second part of the mind is the subconscious mind, which I think is the best part of the mind, which is your emotions, your perspective, your feelings, about things that your sleep, your intracellular healing, things that you do on automatic, where you don't normally have to think about them. 

[00:02:37] Kimberly Friedmutter: So consciousness thinking and unconscious or subconscious is nothing. So I chose to go into that part of the mind is a business because that's all the touchy, feely stuff such as am I going to find the best parking spot? Is this person for me for a short-term mid-term long-term how do I find lost items around the house? 

[00:02:58] Kimberly Friedmutter: I mean, it can be as something as simple as that, or how did I create this disease? How do I keep running these unhealthy patterns and ecological patterns in my life? Something as serious as that. So you see, we get a broad span and this beautiful amount of pendulum swing in our behavior just by looking and learning about our subconscious. 

[00:03:22] Marci Brockmann: So, so you help your clients and your readers with your, with your book, figure out how to tap into that themselves.  

[00:03:31] Kimberly Friedmutter: Yes.  
 

[00:03:32] Marci Brockmann: We need a person to guide us or can we learn to do it on our.  

[00:03:37] Kimberly Friedmutter: So my book is about self-hypnosis it's teaching people how our readers, how to self hypnotize through experiences that are client-based experiences. So for example, if you continually are sabotaging yourself or negative self-talk or mommy day drinking, or daddy, garage smoking, you know, it could be any of these things. What's great is if you have a brain you're in the game and there's something to fix, like for example, I went to my first hypnotist, because I had a talk radio show on the Howard Stern station, which was 97.1, KLSX in Los Angeles. 

[00:04:15] Kimberly Friedmutter: And it was the FM talk station there that everyone listened to. So when I got that show, I started really experiencing an angst and dread and all of the things that people associate with public speaking. So I hired a hypnotist to help me with that. And in one session, she completely took that feeling away of stage fright or fear and dread and all of that, because what I knew subconsciously is that I wanted to enjoy that time. I was doing it. I didn't want to dread it much. Like if you have, you know, a blended family and you're pulled a thousand directions and you don't want to go this way and do that for Johnny, but you know that this one is pulling at your attention and, you know, life can be so stressful. So dread enters in, and it really makes it oftentimes intolerable for people in different ways. To eliminate that you can literally feel different and change your perspective about how you see things and that would get to through the subconscious. So to answer your question, yes, you can self hypnotize. It's the best kind of. Something bothers me. I said, oh, I need to work on that tonight. Right before I go to bed, I laid down. I think through the thing I contact my subconscious, which is really getting in touch with that primal instinctual part of us, that gut instinct, that thing that we all have, I'm here to tell you that your gut instincts are right. 

[00:05:35] Kimberly Friedmutter: Your primal instincts are right. So listen to them, you know, take one week. If you don't believe it, if you're someone who needs convincing, then just take one week and follow your instincts for one week. Solid, no matter how crazy it feels or seems. And then just do what your instincts are saying to do and then provide. 

[00:05:54] Marci Brockmann: Yes. It's the same as intuition. We call it a lot of 

[00:05:57] Kimberly Friedmutter: different things. But as long as it's something ecological, I'm not saying all my primal instinct said, jump off the building. And I did not saying that at all. What I'm saying something. Yeah. Something, not something that's not ecological does not apply. I did have someone and I talk about the story in the book that came to me to surf the big wave that was not ecological to remove fear from that subconscious that's something that we have for our protection and our safety. We don't want an. And abundance, I guess I should say a fear in something that's phobic or not. Doesn't make reasonable sense of course, but you see where you go with that? And then just yesterday I thought, Hmm, I'm going to drive to the front and see if I just happened to see a parking space in a spot where there just wasn't I'm just going to let my hands turn the wheel and sure enough, boom, right there made no sense. It was the perfect spot right next to the door. Like, you know, things like that, that you really can make your life simpler easier. And sometimes even say that listening to your instincts.  

[00:06:58] Marci Brockmann: Interesting. Interesting. I guess I can think of a thousand way, ways that I use rely on my intuition every day in the classroom. You know, I teach 11th and 12th grade English during the day and I have this sense, this ability to sense. An energy shift in one of my students or when somebody is in distress or just like a half a millisecond of looking at their face and I can tell something's wrong. And, and. So I'm not really sure what my question is. So tapping into that is, is relational to hypnosis.  

[00:07:39] Kimberly Friedmutter: Yes. So for example, like when we dream, when we dream, that's all subconscious. So there's a lot of. Scrutiny. And not a lot of clear facts on what dreams are exactly. A lot of people believe it's just a dumping ground for things that are our senses taken during the day. 

[00:07:59] Kimberly Friedmutter: Some people believe it's only things that need to be worked out and highly symbolic, you know? Right. If you dream of teeth or your teeth falling out, for example, someone might say, oh, you know, your marriage is broken. You know, whatever pigs fly, you know, there's all these different assessments just being,  

[00:08:17] Marci Brockmann: you need to go to the dentist, right. 

[00:08:18] Kimberly Friedmutter: Or it could be, you need to go to the dentist or it could just be that something you saw on the day. And once you got a split, second, it reminded you of teeth. What's neat about dreams is because it's a subconscious thing that's happening is that. You can control them. So for example, people will come to me that have night terrors and they'll come with, you know, dreams that they'd like to not have nightmares that they're having. So what I suggest is that. Become conscious during their unconscious sleep. So for example, if I said to you, let's say that was your issue. And I said, so tonight, when you go to bed and tonight when that dream starts to come up, or that nightmare starts to emerge, you're going to ask it questions. What can I do for you? Why are you here? What messages do you have? What do you have to tell me? What can I learn from you? Or simply back up, go away. I don't want to see you in my dreams anymore. So if we can participate at any point in time, you know, when you're in that beautiful Twilight spot of sleep, you're not quite asleep, not quite awake. And then in the nighttime, before you go to bed, you're like that. And then in the morning when you're waking up the same, it's an amazing time to really practice that kind of one foot in and one foot out. And it feels so good. It gives you this sense of control, which you always have. I want anyone listening or watching to know you always have control over your thoughts, thoughts are a choice. . They may roll in, but there a choice where the tape, yeah. It's like a piece of paper on your desk. If you put a piece of paper on my desk, I choose, do I keep it? Do I trash it or do I file it or do I look at it? What do I do with it? So every thought you have is that so getting control and feeling like you have this sense of agency over your own thoughts is extremely powerful. 

[00:10:07] Marci Brockmann: Yeah. I've, I've had times where I've sort of I'm in that Twilight sort of waking up, but I'm really loving my dream and I will myself to go back into it. And most of the time I'm successful in getting back there,  

[00:10:25] Kimberly Friedmutter: which that's how people explain near death experiences the same, you know, they, they either will themselves to go toward or away from that experience. So that's, yeah, it's a beautiful moment that you can just not be ready for. And you just slide right back into where you were like a little placeholder.  

[00:10:43] Kimberly Friedmutter: Let me share with you. Because some people, the things that are most asked, you know, and I do a lot of interviews and people ask a lot, a lot of questions. And one thing they'll ask is what's the difference between hypnosis and meditation. 

[00:10:55] Marci Brockmann: That is one of my questions. 

[00:10:58] Kimberly Friedmutter: I thought I'd just jump in please, is where you're really focusing on keeping thoughts out. They start the same hypnosis and meditation start the same wishes, many protocols start with quiet, your mind and center yourself and getting a nice white place. And you have some place where you're uninterrupted. 

[00:11:17] Kimberly Friedmutter: What I like to do is I like to imagine a warm Ray of golden light coming in through the top of my head. That feels like deity to me.. You imagine this, you know, closing your eyes and just imagining this warm Ray of golden light coming in through the top of your head slowly, starting to warm up and to tingle the little follicles around your hair. 

[00:11:38] Kimberly Friedmutter: Something that tiny little micro movements of feeling that warm Ray of golden light, and you can either feel it. You can see it, you know, chances are you're doing both, right. That's where I like to start with meditation where typically keeping thoughts away at bay. So that there's just OHM just nothingness, just quietude, right with hypnosis. It's actually the opposite is we're allowing thoughts in. We want those so that warm Ray of golden light starts to really relax a little tiny muscles back behind your eyes. A little tiny, tiny little muscles back behind your ears and through your jaw line, letting your mouth just fall open. So you really start to feel that giving way. 

[00:12:25] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oftentimes, I'll say your muscles feel like warm butter, melting on a hot pavement on a hot summer day. You know, that's very good in Las Vegas during the summer. Right. So, anyway, the point is, is to get the body really relaxed, any questions you have, any concerns you have, anything like that, that you can put forward in those answers? Because your subconscious mind is a busy little one. The subconscious I always like into about an eight year old child where it's very busy. It's very involved with self it's, not to the age yet where it's tremendously PC. I say we really need to get back to her him because that little person inside really has your best interest at heart is super selfish, which we need to get, you know, oftentimes to figure ourselves out, we have to go in and. Hypnosis. And this book is like the most selfish self-help book you could ever find, because it's only about you. It's not about your brother, your sister, your cousins, your uncles, your aunts, it's all about you, not even about your children. And it's a beautiful thing because it's, it's tailored when you read it. You think about you and that's exactly where I want you. Because again, you have a brain you're in the game who doesn't need like a little tune-up who doesn't need the halo, buffed a little bit, a little gilding, a little polish, a little shine. So it's really. Inside of you, because one thing, like on the back of my book, I have some really lovely, quotes from people like Jennifer Hudson, Martha Stewart, Mike Tyson, different spiritual people in the world, a lot of different professionals who have been high performing professionals in our world. And what happens that every single one of them says my life turned out. Like I never could have imagined, never could have dreamt the size, the magnitude, the Uber nearness of the life that they live. And what I find is that when you go within and when you tap into that thing, you're sending these messages, you're emitting like similar to what you said, how. we met was you emitted out the, the desire, the need, the wouldn't that be nice newness of it, right? And then someone grabbed it and channeled it right in, grab it and then contacted me for this. And so the beauty of this is that I want you to have the life you want for yourself. I want the life I want for myself, but guess what? Life I want more for you. And for me, I want the life that the universe has for you. I want the life that the universe has for me. I want the life that the universe has for your listeners or your viewers. What happens is when you tap into that life, you're magic, all of a sudden you're vibrating. Those things. Those calls are answered that your phone is ringing. It's tapping into a source bigger than ourselves. Self hypnosis is really. Opening you up to be a portal for everything you've ever wanted, that you don't even know you want, that you can't even imagine that you want or need. That's the beauty of it. 

[00:15:36] Kimberly Friedmutter: When you start seeing the magnitude and the reach of that vibration, all of a sudden is convinced you it's places and things and meetings and connections that you never in your life could have done yourself. That's when I say excellent! That's what every single high-performer that I've ever known or spoken to or worked with has ever ever said about their life is that it was bigger than they ever, ever, ever imagined. That's where we want to be. And it's not only about money. It's not only about fame. It's about the richness of your life. The only thing that really matters  

[00:16:12] Kimberly Friedmutter: meaning connections,  

[00:16:13] Marci Brockmann: relationships, that is, yeah, whatever  

[00:16:15] Kimberly Friedmutter: that is, whatever that is for you. If it's, you know, whatever, I mean, we all have different things that richness at the end of your day and my day and your viewers days, that that richness is what we're. After that, I did it. This was awesome. What a great. What nice final thoughts for you now capping out when we leave this place, wherever we go. 

[00:16:47] Marci Brockmann: So how do you get from a state of not knowing to a state of knowing, you know, like I have a lot of questions, you know, I, I have some nasty recurrent, internal monologue going on where I say horrible things to myself, that in a thousand years, I'd never say to someone else and I'm, I'm better at catching it. And squashing it and sending it into oblivion than I've ever been, but it's still persistently there. I have sort of a consistent, persistent, emotional relationship with food that I'm trying to get rid of, or at least make healthier.  

[00:17:30] Kimberly Friedmutter: We don't want to ever get rid of our relationship with food,  

[00:17:33] Marci Brockmann: but then the negative aspect of it. And, and I know in my gut that I'm meant for more than this and I've been expanding, I wrote two books. I have the podcast going, you know, I'm growing my community. I'm going back to get a third master's degree. I'm going to become a therapist. Like I'm adding all these things. And I know I'm on the right road, but I feel like. I ha there's a short, not a short cut, but like a more direct line to figuring this out and I can't quite find it.  

[00:18:14] Kimberly Friedmutter: Okay. So then I would say add up until now. So my little additives, you know, how, when you open up a fortune cookie, people say, like to add the words in bed or something funny or whatever, I have those additives of my own. And any time you start to think something that you can't do or haven't done, or  

[00:18:31] Marci Brockmann: haven't been able to  

[00:18:33] Kimberly Friedmutter: up until now, I want you to add up until now the second thing. Anytime negative self-talk starts to come in. The first thing obviously is awareness. It sounds like you've got that covered. So when you become aware, I want you to say, cancel, cancel, cancel. Cancel is because our subconscious or that little eight year old, she or he is inside of us and takes in everything like a little stenography. Right. Oh, sunny day. Time to play. Oh, cloudy day, go away. Oh, this one likes me. This one. Doesn't this one's good. This one's bad. All of those things, all the judgements, I'll be opinions. I'll be everything. Just 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, and then hits sent, right. And files it away. So when you said, cancel, cancel, some people prefer, delete, delete. I use, cancel, cancel. I write about this extensively in the book because oftentimes we're the ones in our own way. And so, and we're the ones that we can control. So that's like perfect. If I'm in my way and I can control me. Perfect. Let's do that.  

[00:19:34] Marci Brockmann: We're the only ones we can control.  

[00:19:36] Kimberly Friedmutter: We can control. And, you can, and you will. And she, he, that little eight year old inside of us insist on it. And, you know, oftentimes as the one squeaky wheel. So to speak that saying, come on, come on, come on, pushing us for greatness. So that's the one. So you want to say cancel, cancel, because that doesn't file. That cancel, cancel means not for you. I do this at dinner. If I'm with someone who is a chronic and I do have friends that are chronic complainers or whiners or whatever, you know, they just do. They're just like family, you know, basically. And so I just tucked my thumbs and I usually cross my arms and I'm like, really? This is fascinating. And I'm listening. And then, you know, just like you would enjoy someone and authentically enjoy them, but I don't want their stuff. I don't and sometimes my husband will look at me and I'm, my legs are crossed and my feet are cross and I'm like this. And he looks at me. I don't even realize it, but I, if I think back on the conversation, I think, well, of course this is my natural body form falling back into the field position. So what happens is, if you say, cancel, cancel your body will not have to respond to what the brain is taking in the brain. Let's just say that, that you think you're not good enough for whatever. Then that thought comes in and it's not words it's thoughts. Cancel, cancel. Someone else says something to you that you don't want to take in. It doesn't need to be about you, but if they say, oh my gosh, I had the worst luck today. Personally, I say, cancel, cancel inside myself. You know, my, my quiet. And so you'll see things start to turn around and then if you do it with a mate or roommate, brother, sister, parent, whatever, it's tons of fun because when they say something, then you go to cancel, cancel. 

[00:21:20] Kimberly Friedmutter: And then they said, like this whole thing, and then, you know, the whole family's on board with it. It really is fun. And you do it of course, with love and in the spirit of. Not to be annoying, but he knows two things up until now because like a client might sit down and say, oh my gosh, you know, the problem is the problem is the issue is the problem is, and I say up until now, up until now, up until now, because the minute, you know, just like cellular renewal first faces, your skin is beautiful. 

[00:21:48] Kimberly Friedmutter: I'm sure you take excellent care of it in that process. Cellular renewal is part of that process. That turnover is it allow yourself your personality. We can all change and yes, leopards do change their spots. I watch a lot of national geographic and they do change. So the thing is, is that you too can have this turnover. 

[00:22:09] Kimberly Friedmutter: You can always, always, always improve and, you know, expand even move out of behaviors, move into new ones. We're constantly, everything is about change. It's actually nothing static. If you want to look at it that way, nothing stays the same.  

[00:22:24] Marci Brockmann: What, what's the quote? I don't even, the, all the. That's for sure. 

[00:22:30] Kimberly Friedmutter: The stays the same as changed. That's it? You got it. You got it. The only thing you can count on is change.  

[00:22:35] Marci Brockmann: It was knotted up in my brain. I couldn't I couldn't clarify.  

[00:22:38] Kimberly Friedmutter: It's actually the it's the flip. So really nothing, nothing. Cellular renewal. Perfect example. Nothing is static, nothing, nothing, nothing. So change is what we do expect, you know, someone said to me in an interview, a few years back, they said, oh, you know, did your success, it was the book was coming out, whatever. And did your success change you? And I said, I sure hope so. You know, that's what I hope. I'm a little, yeah. I hope it changed me because you know, more eyes, more ears, more, everything, more, reach, more, all of that. It better have, you know, so change is the thing we're actually looking for. We, we honor that we want to. 

[00:23:17] Marci Brockmann: Yeah. Growth change in perspective. Absolutely. Yeah,  

[00:23:20] Kimberly Friedmutter: yeah, absolutely. Gnosis provides that. Beautiful. I'm glad you said that the perspective word, because perspective really fixes everything. If you think about your troubles in the past year, you know, even horrors and the past, it was the perspective of which you came from, and that perspective is always looking for I guess, an opinion to make it right. And so when you're, when you're a helpful, helpful person, helpful and helpful, and you're seeking optimal health, then who better than you and literally from the neck up to run your body and your mind and your life, then your subconscious that's actually where it is run symbolism, your emotions, how you feel about things, memories, all of those things come from that soft squeezy lovey part, which is in the subconscious, how we, how we exist. Right. So we're not just mechanical, conscious beings we exude and we feel, and we live and that's coming from your subconscious  

[00:24:19] Marci Brockmann: yeah. Everything that we are. I think that, yeah, everything that we each would say is uniquely asked, comes from our subconscious,  

[00:24:28] Kimberly Friedmutter: right? So the conscious is what you are and the subconscious is who you are. 

[00:24:32] Marci Brockmann: Is that what you mean in the book? When you say soul spirit, is that the same thing?  

[00:24:36] Kimberly Friedmutter: I add soul spirit, you know, clinical hypnotherapists sometimes do. And sometimes they don't. I do, because I just have to, everyone believes in something, even if your belief is science, you know, from my non spiritual believers, they believe in the universe and the star and the moon, because it's science, it's fact it's data. They love that. My mathematicians, they love that. I have a beautiful human being. A friend that wrote something lovely for the book, Martin Mancini, who's a musician, Oscar winner. And you know, so science, science, science, beats of music, math, all of these things, that's their soul spirit. That's who they are. 

[00:25:16] Kimberly Friedmutter: So it was to honor and to harken to that part of us, because it is part of us, no matter what it is, you believe you can be atheist. You can be agnostic. I don't care if you believe the color pink exists or doesn't what it is is you do believe in. And even if you're, if you're a scientist, you believe in a Petri dish where, you know, the cell meets that cell and starts to, to grow, right.  

[00:25:40] Marci Brockmann: Divide, multiply, all that sort of thing. So I'm just breathing, breathing into it. So how, how does like the nitty gritty of this actually work? So I get relaxed. All my muscles are all relaxed. I'm in a totally cool space. I'm breathing. I'm trying to let the light in  

[00:26:07] then  
 

[00:26:07] Marci Brockmann: what?.  
 

[00:26:08] Kimberly Friedmutter: So let's say that cause you brought up food addiction. That's a good one. 

[00:26:12] Kimberly Friedmutter: So we, we start to imagine certain things. So for example, with food addiction, I want you to imagine the things and in our little pre-interview, and if you're self hypnotizing, you know, you know what your desires are, which you want to be eating, what you don't want to be eating, it's basically two lists. 

[00:26:32] Kimberly Friedmutter: And so I take your list of what you don't want to be eating. And I start to villify i. And I start to create an aversion to it. So I might have you walking on a beautiful Sandy beach. Let's just say you love the beach. Where's your favorite place in the world? I love the beach. So I have you walking on beautiful Sandy beach, enjoying the sunshine. I've got you dressed in white. You can feel yourself. You can hear yourself, you can see yourself, you're having a complete body. I love me experience, right. Then I have you happen upon the foods that you love. There's a buffet set out for you. And of course, there's fabulous people there, fabulous lighting, fabulous beverage, because with every eating protocol, I always do like a beverage protocol too, because a lot of my people are like, you know, I love wine with a good cheese. 

[00:27:23] Kimberly Friedmutter: Sure. So we make healthy food, you know, whatever that means to you with sparkling water, with beautiful fruits in it, or whatever your thing is, whatever we established for, you know, that the. And so everybody's fabulous and everybody's amazing. And then you decide to leave that party because you notice some clouds rolling in. 

[00:27:43] Kimberly Friedmutter: So you start walking towards the clouds because you're ever so curious. And as you walk towards the clouds, you look out and you start to see this floating raft. And this raft is like moving there's movement on the rapid. You can't quite make it out. So you go closer, closer, anyway, all of a sudden the smell and the thing. 

[00:28:02] Kimberly Friedmutter: And what you're seeing is, you know, creatures with like tar and gnashing teeth, then you start to have these things. So for example, let's say. Cheese. I mean, I can do some really awesome things with cheese and rice, really good at that. So anyway, whatever that thing is, you don't want, you see it and it's stinks. 

[00:28:24] Kimberly Friedmutter: So we're hitting all the senses, the smell that's striking and it's down and it's reaching for you. And now it's reaching for you and calling your name and now, oh my gosh, I've got to run because this is horrible. And the cheeses, you know, infected horrible things and the maggots are the rice. I mean, it gets really bad. 

[00:28:41] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oh yeah. I can go there. And, and I, and I do, I like make no qualm about just experience having you experienced the worst possible. Even, um oftentimes I'll even like do a little snip of my hair and I'll burn it so that you can smell like burning. Oh yeah. Nobody likes that. And so this, that, so that you're so put off by that food group or those things that no longer serve you ecologically in your body that you run for your life, you turn from the plank floating toward you calling your name and you know, it's supposed to be as horrible. 

[00:29:24] Kimberly Friedmutter: The nightmare is can. From your perspective. So you turn and you run and, oh my gosh, your friends are waiting and they're waiting by that same table without your yummy food. They're up on this deck. There's music, there's dancing. They're so fabulous. They look so good. They look like you're, they're all dressed in white, you know, it's that. 

[00:29:42] Kimberly Friedmutter: So we're creating an aversion to the negative and bringing you back. No pun intended to the light, to the things you're so appreciative for your body, the sun starting to set, you're running on the beach, you're doing cartwheels, you're doing your movement and things in your hair's perfect. And you're skin, you know, back to that time, when you, when you see yourself as perfect, we're always trying to get to that time where you loved yourself. 

[00:30:06] Kimberly Friedmutter: There's always a point in time. You could have been in high school. It doesn't matter when you were, but that point in time where you're really in your body and you're really feeling it. And then no one has trouble with their eating habits. There's they're so turned off by that, that it's like, it's a slam dunk. 

[00:30:24] Kimberly Friedmutter: So way back when, when my mom used hypnotherapy to quit smoking, it was like that somebody created a very negative picture, sensory five sensory depiction of the disgustingness and of cigarettes so that she didn't want them anymore. Never actually asked her. Cause I was like a teenager at the time. Tell, so it was more than 30 years ago probably. 

[00:30:50] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oh yeah. No, that's it. That's exactly how you do it. Aversion is very powerful. You can do it with people that you shouldn't be around. You can do it with situations. You shouldn't be around places. You shouldn't be, you know, you can do it with anything. It's a really powerful, because we're our subconscious it's first prime directive is your survival. 

[00:31:11] Kimberly Friedmutter: And so you give it anything that's going to kill you or anything that's going to hurt you or damage you. And you frame it that way. Your subconscious is like, of course. So there's not going to be any mindless, unconscious eating of, you know, stuff in front of the TV. I mean, a lot of the things that we consume are things that are just mindless eating, you know, grabbing because it's there or whatever. 

[00:31:37] Kimberly Friedmutter: And so all of that is just done. It'd be aversion works beautifully. Thank goodness for us.  

[00:31:43] Marci Brockmann: So, so in a sense, what you're doing. Is reprogramming the primal part of our brain, that lower part of the brain. So rather than needing lots and lots of repetition where we're condensing. The effectiveness of it in a way,  

[00:32:04] Kimberly Friedmutter: because your choices come from a lot of times emotions. And how do you feel depends on what you grab. So people will say, oh, well, because, you know, I broke up with Johnny and I ate a tub of ice cream, or, you know, my job was stressful today. So I drank a bottle of whatever, you know, that's how we choose our food. Oftentimes is not for our physical body, but for our emotional emotions. 

[00:32:31] Kimberly Friedmutter: Right. So it puts an end to all of that because you're cutting, you're cutting through the layer of emotions, excuses, reasons. You're cutting through everything. And you're saying that this, this slime that's out on the plane, or, you know, it can be someone chasing you in a car. Your food can be, you know, like, oh my gosh, the potatoes are coming. And the potato people and you're driving and you're  

[00:32:57] Marci Brockmann: looking at like Jurassic park with the T-Rex chasing you down  

[00:33:01] Kimberly Friedmutter: right. Old people. And those eyes on the potato are popping out and their game. Then they implant you with potato seeds, which is very disturbing. So like horrible and, you know, open the potato and it's rotting and there's things moving in it. And then you realize it's not a potato at all. It's just a disease ball. I mean, it's,  

[00:33:27] Marci Brockmann: I don't think I love, I'm never going to Google to look at them again without seeing maggots. Thank you very much.  

[00:33:34] Kimberly Friedmutter: Every time I looked at rice, I think, cause it moving, I made, cause it works on me to remember I'm sitting there. So as I'm doing this, it's it is so funny, outgoing, wherever my husband say, oh, what do you want? I'm like salad please.  

[00:33:48] Marci Brockmann: Yeah, definitely not rice. Oh yeah. Wow. I hear  

[00:33:55] Kimberly Friedmutter: it too. So yeah, it affects and chocolate, you can do some amazing things with chocolate. You can do crazy things with sugars and I mean, it's, it's really so good. So you just think of what's your biggest nightmare and then make that your food, you know, of those things, of course, that are not good. Okay.  

[00:34:11] Marci Brockmann: So you can do this yourself. So if we follow your steps that you outline in the book and we get ourselves into that trance state, that Twilight  

[00:34:22] Kimberly Friedmutter: yeah. You go into it so many times a day. 

[00:34:24] Kimberly Friedmutter: Anyway, let me just, and I didn't mean to interrupt you. I'm so sorry. What I mean by that as we go, and I didn't exactly cover this as we're always in trance. So for example, and not constantly, but always. So for example, when you're watching the TV and your eyes just kind of blur out or you're driving on that stretch of road and you didn't think consciously how you even got there, you know, sometimes you're surprised you're just on automatic pilot, that's it. 

[00:34:47] Kimberly Friedmutter: Staring at the refrigerator inside, you know, oh, I forgot what I came in here for. I thought I was hungry, looking at a fire, watching children play or a dog with a ball. We're always in this trance state because that's our natural state. Our natural state is not wired and frazzled vigilance written. Right? 

[00:35:05] Kimberly Friedmutter: Exactly. That's not where we're meant to be our greatest inspirations aha moments. And in these amazing inclinations, we have come from that other place. And that's the place where you also happen to fix your issues?  

[00:35:19] Marci Brockmann: It makes so much sense. I just had an aha moment. So after my mother died in 2013, Very toxic relationship, bipolar narcissistic self-medicating or addict. 

[00:35:37] Marci Brockmann: Our name was Janet and she tried to fix her bipolarity herself with opiates, which was really not the way to go. but, that common. Yeah, she took no responsibility whatsoever for her own happiness, her own success, her own, whatever, always expected her meaning and happiness and everything to come from the outside and was always pissed at people because nobody could do it for her and she didn't want responsibility for it. 

[00:36:05] Marci Brockmann: Anyway, so she died and I was left with deal, trying to figure out how to make sense out of all of that in a way that made me healthy and, and, and kept me from passing along that toxic bullshit to my kids. 

[00:36:22] Kimberly Friedmutter: Right.  
 

[00:36:22] Marci Brockmann: So I'm also a visual artist. I've always. In times of stress or in times of confusion, gravitated towards writing and mostly drawing and painting. 

[00:36:33] Marci Brockmann: And so I set up this drafting table that I'm now using as a home studio for the podcast and, and I painted and I painted and I painted and I painted and I would get into that flow state, which I'm now calling trans because of you. And I found all of my answers without really looking for them. They just bubbled up to the surface and showed up one by one. 

[00:36:59] Marci Brockmann: I started putting things together, like little Lego's snapping into place, and suddenly all this stuff made sense. I mean, it took years. It's not like suddenly on a Tuesday, four 30, it was all there. But, yeah, it totally made sense to me. And suddenly I realized that all the things that I had learned from my mother were not true. And that the only person who was responsible for me was me.  

[00:37:25] Kimberly Friedmutter: Right. You're responsible for your own comfort on this, my own  

[00:37:28] Marci Brockmann: healing. I had to give myself permission to heal permission, to go and do what I needed to do, or, you know, and that's where it all, it all came from, you know, meditating and not meditating. I was like, hypnotizing myself.  

[00:37:44] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oh, yeah, no. And, and we do that. We hypnotize ourselves to the negative to, you know, oftentimes a client as I finish up, they'll be, you know, we'll come back up, you know, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and you're relaxed and you're aware in every way and blah, blah, blah. And they come back up and then all of a sudden, boy, am I glad I don't feel like that, that, that, that, that, that debt anymore. 

[00:38:05] Kimberly Friedmutter: And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just done. Did it, well, not ended it, but let's not, you know, let's not like let's not focus on what you're not anymore and let's enjoy and breathe into what you are because that's your natural, you, you know, people, I mean, you'll still meet people in amazes me that think. Life is kind of supposed to still be hard and painful and upsetting and all these things. And that's just not the case. Your life can be if you choose it that way, you know, obviously things happen, but perspective is everything. It's your perspective on what's happening? You know, we learned that when you're a child, you know, it's not what happened, Johnny, it's your, how you're viewing it, you know? 

[00:38:43] Kimberly Friedmutter: So you can turn that around. But the, but the fact that your comfort is up to you on this planet and in this experience and in your marriage and your mommydom and in your classrooms with your children, your students, your comfort is on you. From the time someone comes into my home office. I say your comfort while you were here is up to you. 

[00:39:05] Kimberly Friedmutter: I want to hear if you're cold, if you're warm, if you need to go potty, I want to hear it. I'm hungry. If you want something crunchy or you want a straw or anything, I want to know because your comfort is on you. So, you know, And same thing in the universe. Makes sense.  

[00:39:25] Marci Brockmann: Yeah. So, so you use a phrase in your book that you use. I think to describe transformation, you'd call it soul travel. What does that mean?  

[00:39:36] Kimberly Friedmutter: Well, really arc from here to there. Where, where are we headed? Where are we going? For example, if you go to your school reunion, You might see people that are the same and you might see people that have moved, or have evolved or have changed. There's been, you know, the idea is that our spirit and our soul, and this is probably more of the woo part of the book for sure. But it comes really through your subconscious. So for example, a lot of people come because they're, I'm trying to think of the best way to put it. A lot of people come because they're depressed and they don't know why they're depressed. 

[00:40:21] Kimberly Friedmutter: I have one right now that a client that is starting to self carnivore eyes not literally, but figuratively, picking on herself in so many ways because she's not exuding out. So she needs to, she needs to. Experience, things outside of her resources so that we use hypnosis for, I mean, you could say, well, Joanne, she travels a lot. 

[00:40:50] Kimberly Friedmutter: Well, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about your experiences. Within your own capacity. Getting involved with someone else's experience is actually the best way to get out of yourself. So whether you're caring for someone who's, less fortunate than you, whether it's a company or, you know, a systemized thing, but something where you're moved that soul travel can be that it can be astral travel while you're sleeping. 

[00:41:19] Kimberly Friedmutter: There's another way that I use that in the book, where you're really so like tuned in that you literally leave your body now. Not scientifically, I don't want anyone to, you know, remote viewing is another fantastic way. One of the things I set up when I do speaking engagements is I give everyone a close sealed envelope. 

[00:41:40] Kimberly Friedmutter: And in that envelope is an image and that image is going to be something big, like a car or an avocado or a hat or a sun or something that's real, super simple okay. And, I asked them with a pen to draw and to like, just hold the envelope and just draw on it, doodle on it, write words on it, whatever you feel moved to do, do that. 

[00:42:02] Kimberly Friedmutter: And sure enough, when you open up that envelope, it's very similar. If not. Straight forward the object either  

[00:42:11] Marci Brockmann: never knowing what the object was  

[00:42:13] Kimberly Friedmutter: exactly. Because with remote viewing, you know, we forget that we are powerful beings and we have so much capacity for information, even that we don't have immediate impressions on. 

[00:42:26] Kimberly Friedmutter: So for example, you don't have access to that photo or that magazine clipping. So you don't have that access to that impression, but you do, but you do, you just have it in another way. So for example, I was at I think it was ABC in New York and I was sitting in the lobby and the gentleman that does like their medical news division came out, who I was meeting with. And I said, you know, pick an envelope. And he envelopes. So he takes one and he starts to draw resistant, but he draws like a dog's face. I guess I know why I drew this. He hands it back to me. He goes, I drew it because we have to watch her neighbor's dog this weekend. And remembering, excuse me, that I'm handing him like fanning out like cards, picking an envelope. 

[00:43:11] Kimberly Friedmutter: Right? So that's like skill set, number one. So he says, because we're watching this neighbor's dog and my wife is like a thing. Cause we shouldn't really be watching the dog, but we are, it says this whole thing. So anyway, I drew a dog, but here, here, let's just do this anyway. Hands me the envelope. I open it up and it's for a dog food. 

[00:43:27] Marci Brockmann: Yeah. Wow. Was he a believer that  

[00:43:31] Kimberly Friedmutter: I kid you not? And he's like, well, you know, of course I would pick that because, and I go, yeah, that's the thing. Of course you would pick that because you had all the options and pick that. Why? Because it's here, you're so clearly so consumed with this big thing that's happening this weekend that you even chose the envelope, it had something to do with it. 

[00:43:52] Kimberly Friedmutter: Then you even really engineered the whole thing with the dog thing, you know? So you really are a lot. I mean, it was like, it was the most beautiful, perfect thing to me for what I do. Right. Because the brain was just in it the whole time. And so the conscious mind, may not want when I see children, I, in my practice, I do that also because, you know, they're very graphic and they respond right to, to imagery. 

[00:44:16] Kimberly Friedmutter: So it'll be like, ah, this boy. Did a big, what he thought was the son. He, he drew a, like a kind of a circle. I think it was an oval. So he drew it kind of oval and then he drew raise off of it. And the whole time he's handing it to me, he's apologizing. Oh, my circles, not a circle. And the raise, you know, they should probably look better, but you know, here, here, here, you know, he's like, I think 12 at the time or something. 

[00:44:41] Kimberly Friedmutter: And I said, thank you so much. And I open it. And it's a picture of a diamond ring, oval shaped diamond with sparkles coming off of it because of the lit and the way they shot, it was a photo of a ring, but you could see the prism shooting off of it. And they were the same shape of the things and exactly how many rays, I think it was like identical. 

[00:45:03] Marci Brockmann: Wow.  
 

[00:45:04] Kimberly Friedmutter: And so he was apologized. So the conscious mind steps in and goes, oh, you know, this is blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. But the subconscious, she, he knows that little eight year old inside knows and goes, I got this, I'm on this. So that's a fun thing to try at home. You can do it yourself, have someone else stuff envelopes for you. 

[00:45:21] Marci Brockmann: Just try it in my classmates.  

[00:45:25] Kimberly Friedmutter: It can't be something like what's behind you because there's too many that your artwork behind there's too many things going on. It needs to be something that's a very set, you know, for beginners. Yeah. Tens of fun. I highly recommend it.  

[00:45:39] Marci Brockmann: Well, that's so cool. I like that. I like that. I like that. So just to, we have, you know, Culture. I think in in the movies, people have always talked about, you know, like if you're hypnotized that you're gonna, like, you know, Meow like a cat or squawk, like a chicken and that you're not going to remember any of it when you wake up. 

[00:46:01] Marci Brockmann: There's no truth to that whatsoever.  

[00:46:04] Kimberly Friedmutter: Well, there is. And there isn't, so the memory part of it, I can ask the subconscious to not remember what we've spoken of. I can do that. I ask clients, do they want to remember this? Or do they not want to remember this? And conclusively, they all do want to remember it. So, but you can say you won't remember it.  

[00:46:24] Marci Brockmann: Is it more effective to remember or to not remember? Or it's  

[00:46:28] Kimberly Friedmutter: kind of depends because like, normally with like really heavy, heavy, heavy trauma where someone can only think of the trauma that happened PTSD and things like that, it can be who've people I'd have to think of like a specific. Instance where that was the case. I'm sure I've had them over the years. I feel like I go in to resolve the issue so that they can think of the issue and not have the emotional attachment. That's my preference. I don't want a memory loss or block on really anything in someone's life. What I want is the emotional, like thread cord, rope chain, whatever level of attachment that is to be detached. So that they're free to talk about the event, because if we, if we do that to someone. Then, or, you know, have them do it to themselves. Then at a dinner party, you know, something could come up or something would come up where their information about something could be tremendously helpful to someone else provided that they don't, you know, have this inappropriate, emotional attachment to that thing. 

[00:47:36] Kimberly Friedmutter: So I'd rather go in and sever that emotion. And in fact, that's one of the major things I do. And I'm known for is doing that with addicts, doing that with people who, you know, are depressed or suicidal or can't get out of their own way, for whatever reason, all of those things. Because when you take that emotion away, all of a sudden the weight is lifted. All of a sudden you feel free. All of a sudden you feel back like yourself, like you did when you were eight. He, she like you, you can move about the planet as you deserve to, you know, that's your birthright and  

[00:48:07] Marci Brockmann: buoyant and light and unencumbered and  

[00:48:10] Kimberly Friedmutter: otherwise, yeah. Y, right. Exactly.  

[00:48:17] Marci Brockmann: So your book, subconscious power using your inner mind to create the life you've always wanted is available on your website. 

[00:48:24] Marci Brockmann: We're available wherever you buy books. 

[00:48:27] Kimberly Friedmutter: I have it right here. It's a lovely cover. I love the blue and, yeah, I'm still working my way through it. I, I tried to finish it before the interview and I just couldn't quite get it. That's  

[00:48:38] Kimberly Friedmutter: okay. Savor it. You know, I like to get to feel, and that's  

[00:48:41] Marci Brockmann: something I wanted to rush. 

[00:48:43] Kimberly Friedmutter: I want to feel like it's more of a manual, for people throw it in your drawer next to your bed or in your office or wherever, because it's, it's one of those things that you go to when there's a hitch, you know? Yes, the basics are awesome, but when there's a hitch run to it, because it's, it's designed to help you through, it's designed to be an addendum to your life. 

[00:49:06] Marci Brockmann: Makes sense. So before we end, I like to do the seven quick questions with my guests, if you're ready to relay. So what six words would you use to describe yourself?  

[00:49:17] Kimberly Friedmutter: Energetic, hopeful, optimistic, sometimes cranky. Does that have to count as too intense? I lost track.  

[00:49:32] Marci Brockmann: One more. I 
 

[00:49:33] Marci Brockmann: would say introspective.  

[00:49:37] Kimberly Friedmutter: That makes sense. What's your favorite way to spend it?  

[00:49:41] Kimberly Friedmutter: Doing exactly what I want to do, whatever that is, whatever that I  

[00:49:46] Marci Brockmann: feel such as  

[00:49:47] Marci Brockmann: best answer right now.  

[00:49:49] Kimberly Friedmutter: I feel such a sense of freedom when that's, when it did. There's something that I get to do and not have to do 

[00:49:59] Kimberly Friedmutter: too many have to. Oh my God. Yes. 

[00:50:02] Marci Brockmann: What's your favorite childhood memory?  

[00:50:06] Kimberly Friedmutter: I think softball games or watching the shortstop I played and I had to have bubble gum. It was, I had a ritual here had to be back in a ponytail bubblegum, basically like very ritualistic about the whole pool. And that's also from the subconscious all of our symbolism and ritualism. 

[00:50:25] Marci Brockmann: Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. I'm going to have to think about that. What's your favorite meal? Hmm.  

[00:50:33] Kimberly Friedmutter: I think salad plank in the ocean. Do you know the monsters that are on that plank and the other foods? No, I really do. I crave greens and I found an amazing, we're in Las Vegas and there aren't amazing greens here. Sorry, Las Vegas, but there just aren't and I ordered them from  

[00:50:53] Marci Brockmann: your deserts,  

[00:50:54] Kimberly Friedmutter: so, oh yeah. No. And I mean farmer's markets and things. I mean, it's just, that just doesn't exist. Not to my liking. So anyway, I found a website that I just I'm like greens, greens greens gives me greens. Like I love them. People think I'm nuts, but I think it's because of all the hypnosis I do with you, we had this aversion to all that anyway. 

[00:51:18] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oh yeah,  
 

[00:51:20] Marci Brockmann: that's true. That's cool. I'm going to have to try what's one piece of advice you would like to give your younger self.  

[00:51:27] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oh, gosh, enjoy it more. I took everything so serious. I think I still do a little bit. Yeah. I try to really,, my, email is lightened up and so like lighten up life. And so that's, that is it. And the reason I chose that email or created that email was so that every time I wrote it or said it or looked at it or whatever, it would be a reminder to do that, to lighten up. I think I could have a lot more, I know I could have a lot more fun, but I want to remind myself to do that. Cause I, everything, you know, I take pretty serious.  

[00:52:07] Marci Brockmann: Yeah. I had to in, in, in recent months, I guess maybe since the pandemic started, I've, I've realized that as an adult, I sort of forget. How to have fun and forgot that it was important to have fun. You know, I do my artwork, which I sort of consider play, but I wouldn't consider that like exuberant fun. And I got to figure out how to  

[00:52:31] Kimberly Friedmutter: do that pleasing, but not necessarily fun. Right.  

[00:52:37] Marci Brockmann: I don't, I don't know what that is right now.  

[00:52:39] Kimberly Friedmutter: I have two, well, I, I had a little, um, crisis, like, uh, I don't know what needs to even call it, but I, it, the new year I felt like, gosh, I need to have a sense of play much, like what you're explaining and describing. 

[00:52:57] Kimberly Friedmutter: And I thought, what could make me like, feel that way? Like what could I do? So I took up piano. I have a beautiful piano in my office. I took that piano just on an app, simply piano. And it's so good, but I can play like a lot of songs now. And I, I knew like this is middle C I took piano as a child, but like no retention. 

[00:53:23] Marci Brockmann: Right?  
 

[00:53:24] Kimberly Friedmutter: So this is middle C and I didn't mean I can play, I can play like popular songs. Wow. This app is really cool.  

[00:53:33] Marci Brockmann: So then I just, since January.  

[00:53:35] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oh, yeah. Oh, no. It said I'm like four months ahead of like the plan, because I love it so much that I wake up in the morning and I run down to the piano and it and then I practice, we went away for like a week and I said, what am I going to do? Like, how am I going to do? And then I thought, what could I do physical? That would feel like that eight year old sense of place. So I read, took up golf and I ran out, I got some lessons. I just, I went this morning before you and I spoke and I hit some balls and I have this thing where a hundred balls a day. So even that I take serious. If I hit a hundred balls a day, puck them, chip them, hit them, whatever I do with them, then I'll get better, fast. Right. So that, and so. That sense of play, find your thing and treat yourself for you. You know, I'm sure it's your artwork is even though you feel like it's passive and it's not fun, it's satisfying and pleasing. 

[00:54:31] Marci Brockmann: And I can't wait to, I bought these new round canvases at five below who would have thought that they was old canvas, but they are really cheap. And they're like, what? A 12 inch round circles, where are they? Are they canvas material? No canvas is stretched on, you know, round stretched canvases. And I just can't wait. I'm like envisioning florals. I just can't wait  

[00:54:56] Kimberly Friedmutter: me excited. Yeah. That excites that little part of you. And yeah, that's what we can hope for in this lifetime, you know, a new friend or, you know, a new activity. Like those are so important because it gives you that joy back. It gives you that, that spark. 

[00:55:12] Marci Brockmann: Thanks so much sense. What is one thing you would most like to change about the world?  

[00:55:18] Kimberly Friedmutter: Mm, the cruelty. Yeah. I don't know to each other animals life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.  

[00:55:32] Kimberly Friedmutter: Yep.  
 

[00:55:33] Marci Brockmann: Okay. Now completely changing tactics. What TV shows are you binging? Right.  

[00:55:38] Kimberly Friedmutter: Oh, my goodness. So I think is it Nat geo on discovery? 

[00:55:42] Kimberly Friedmutter: There's one about, what's the name of it? It's about animals and it's really good. So my husband and I are super into photography and we love videography and all that. And they're now putting little cameras inside the carcass of the animal that the other animals eating. So does Nat geo and I'm gonna say it's Nat geo, but I really don't know because when I found it, it's like on everything. They have apes, we watched the ones on birds and we watched the ones on cats. So birds, it's the bald Eagle they follow. And they do, you know, the little babies and they like literally have the camera in the nest for the babies. It's fascinating how they do that. And then when we watched the cat one, it was, Pumas and lions and tigers and all these things. And so now from a, from a artistic standpoint, right, they put the camera in the carpus of the animal that the animals eat and  

[00:56:39] Marci Brockmann: watching the animal eat the carcass.  

[00:56:42] Kimberly Friedmutter: So, so from the inside, and it's just like a few flashes. But there's like a moment where you see inside the ribs, you know, like it's wild, it's a new technique. 

[00:56:50] Kimberly Friedmutter: It's new. It's never,  

[00:56:53] Marci Brockmann: I think that they're able to implant it in there without the scent disturbing the animal. Yeah.  

[00:56:59] Kimberly Friedmutter: Or I'm sure they do eat it by accident. I would imagine, you know, or something, or maybe they have it on a stick. I don't know. But it would be also endoscopy's animals hold private lions that just took down a world or bees. And then they have, I mean, again, I don't know how they do this without interruption, but they have the camera inside the carcass. That's all new. So very exciting for us.  

[00:57:23] Marci Brockmann: Wow. I'm then I have to look the world.  

[00:57:26] Kimberly Friedmutter: So, you know, I wish I could tell you. And I don't remember now, it's, it's something about like Goliath of animals it's the latest rate thing. There's probably eight or 10 episodes. It just came out. I couldn't tell you if it's on discovery or peacock or where I. When I found it, I know the first one's apes, then it's birds. And then it's all these amazing animals, dogs, dogs, cats, and by dogs, they mean wolves and things like that by cats, they mean, you know, exotic cats, wild. 

[00:57:58] Kimberly Friedmutter: Wow. That is so cool. So the other ones for the fun ones the thing about Pam and the dropout. So the dropout is about Elizabeth Holmes from Theranose. And the thing about Pam is Renee's Zellwegger, and she's, it's kind of I'm. I love Keith Morrison. I had my own little Dateline story, and so I know him and I love him. 

[00:58:20] Kimberly Friedmutter: And so he narrates this, this show thing about Pam in a different kind of format than they've ever done. And it's with Renee's well are playing this woman called Pamela. I'm going to write that down. Write that down. That I think is Hulu. And I believe the dropout is Hulu and that's Amanda Seyfried that I left her plays her. Yeah, she nails it. I mean, nails, it nails it, she, she seems more like Elizabeth Holmes to me than, oh, wow.  

[00:58:56] Marci Brockmann: That's cool. Yeah, that's very cool. I was watching last night. I had totally forgotten that had come out the movie, Spencer, where Kristen Stewart played princess Diana and  

[00:59:09] Kimberly Friedmutter: struggled with that.  

[00:59:10] Marci Brockmann: It was it was very dark. I found myself sort of in a, in a very fragile mood when that was over, but very powerful. And I have seen Kristen Stewart and a whole lot of other things, but I, she did such a great job that I, I forgot that I was looking at her and I wasn't looking at. Like a documentary of princess, Diana, you know what I know it was, and  

[00:59:34] Kimberly Friedmutter: she's not my natural inclination to go to for her either. 

[00:59:40] Marci Brockmann: I was shocked because to me she's always Bella Swan from Twilight, you know, my daughter and I was obsessed with that 10 years ago, you know?  

[00:59:51] Marci Brockmann: Well, Kimberly, this has been really wonderful. Thank you so much for giving me this, giving all of us this hour. I really truly appreciate you and everything that you've taught us and shared. 

[01:00:03] Marci Brockmann: This has been wonderful.  

[01:00:04] Kimberly Friedmutter: I appreciate you too, honey. And it's so nice to know you and hopefully our paths will cross as many times as they can, hopefully. Okay.  

[01:00:12] Marci Brockmann: Thank you so much.  

[01:00:13] Marci Brockmann: Okay. Be well, bye 

Since interviewing Kimberly Friedmutter and reading her book, I tried her self-hypnosis techniques to see if they would work. And I chose one food items since food seems to be my struggling, struggling point. And I, used her techniques to self hypnotize myself against brownies. 

[00:00:27] So, I thought about her beach. And I thought about the lovely white flowing skirt that I'd be wearing. And I, I thought about all of the healthy food and the mangoes and the blueberries that I love and all sorts of delicious, healthy food. And then I saw a floating in the water maggot-infested, moldy brownies. 

[00:00:55] And I imagined what they smelled like, and I imagined what they look like. And I imagined what they would feel like. And it was so detestable and so disgusting that when I came out of my self-meditative/ trance state, I had a revulsion to brownies and here we are three, four weeks since the interview and I still am off brownies. 

[00:01:23] Just, the thought of them it's revolting makes me physically nauseous. So it works. Now if I went and I forced myself to eat some brownies, I probably could undo it. So my guess is that my behavior has to be parallel to, or in line with the thing that I was trying to self hypnotize myself against, obviously. But it works. I just thought I'd share that with you. I'm going to move on to other foods and see what happens.

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